Im still new to the club. My first ride with them they were waiting maybe 3+ minutes for me. Now its maybe a 2 minute wait on a more spirited ride. You move up slowly and if you are patient you move up safely. You move up quickly you crash and you stop moving up or moving at all. Like RR (I notice I say this a lot hahaha) ive been in a ditch waiting for people, holding screaming people down, it gets old fast. Ride your own ride and you'll be surprised how much youll improve...
I hope this is some consolation if you really do hate us...or them
With that said, hope you had fun today and cant wait to see you out there! Always good seeing new member and meeting new riders.