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Was sensing a loss of HP even before I went back to stock gearing.  Bike has about 7k on it now.  Figured I'd inspect the air filter...   

 

Shoulda bagged that stuff up and sent to thepeople on naked and afraid...

 

Cleaned up fairly well with banging, vacuuming, compressed air and brake cleaner spray from clean side.  Let it dry good before I put back; didn't want to blow head gasket.  

 

Should be good for another few thousand...

 

I've read that some people soak in soapy water but it didn't seem that far gone and thought it might disintegrate.  

 

 

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Holy cow! That is impressive for 7000 miles. I better check the filters on the cars now that I think of it.

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Wednesday night, was going through MO out of Ill along through Hannible and had so many bugs hitting the windshield it was like it was raining.

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I clean my air filter (k&n) every season either at the end or the beginning on the season. I get too much road dirt and bugs sucked in to air box to ignore it.

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I don't remember the last time I looked at mine, guess I need to add that to the todo list! Thanks

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I lost track of how long it'd been since the K&N air filter on my Sprint had been serviced.  I had it in to Donelson's for a valve check earlier this year.  They actually took a picture.  Forgot to have them forward it to me.  It was solid black on the intake side.  Couldn't even see the pleats in the majority of the filter.  Oops.  The throttle bodies were clean, though.

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On 7/8/2017 at 6:08 PM, GSXR55 said:

Was sensing a loss of HP even before I went back to stock gearing.  Bike has about 7k on it now.  Figured I'd inspect the air filter...   

 

Shoulda bagged that stuff up and sent to thepeople on naked and afraid...

 

Cleaned up fairly well with banging, vacuuming, compressed air and brake cleaner spray from clean side.  Let it dry good before I put back; didn't want to blow head gasket.  

 

Should be good for another few thousand...

 

I've read that some people soak in soapy water but it didn't seem that far gone and thought it might disintegrate.  

 

Was this the OEM filter?  Because those are not really reusable.  Unless Suzuki changed the media, it's just a simple paper element.  Meant to be replaced.

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:wait: Come to think of it, maybe I should check some filters too :rolleyes:

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On 7/17/2017 at 11:40 AM, SprintST said:

Was this the OEM filter?  Because those are not really reusable.  Unless Suzuki changed the media, it's just a simple paper element.  Meant to be replaced.

 

On 7/8/2017 at 6:08 PM, GSXR55 said:

Cleaned up fairly well with banging, vacuuming, compressed air and brake cleaner spray from clean side.  Let it dry good before I put back; didn't want to blow head gasket.  

 

Mike,

Sorry I missed what you wrote, but cleaning the OEM Air filter is not a good idea. If you put anything on that filter you likely damaged it.

 

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Actually, the real question is "Why wouldnt you just replace the filter and be done?"

As per the Suzuki Factory Service Manual for my '14 DL1000A, In the Maintenance section the pertinent paragraph states:

{1) Inspect the air cleaner element for clogging. If it is clogged with dirt, replace it with a new one.

       NOTICE

 *  Do not blow the air cleaner element with compressed air.

 *  If driving under dusty conditions, replace the air cleaner element more frequently. Make sure the air cleaner is in good condition at all times. Life of the engine depends largely on this component.}

 

 

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I can understand why people might want to save 50 bucks on a filter (at least that is how much mine costs). Of course it could lead to more than 50 bucks worth of trouble if you're not careful.

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Q: Actually, the real question is "Why wouldnt you just replace the filter and be done?"

A: I really didn't expect to find such a large collection of Ozark insects.  I suppose I should have just banged on ground and vacuumed but didn't see how I could actually damage it by back-flushing with air and since element didn't disintegrate from brake cleaner, I'm willing to bet it's hanging together still, but I'll check tomorrow.

 

I do understand that once too many microscopic particles get in there they ain't coming out.  

 

I have a new one coming.

 

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Got and installed my new one Friday!

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 Clean or replace?  😈  I think these are seeds that got in there and germanated after I rode in a monsoon...   I've noticed a big drop in power since that day.

 

Took over 2 hours to strip down to this point.  About 2 hours so far putting back together and stuck getting the big 'top cover' back on... Will try later when cooler.. 

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Upon closer inspection, this debris seems to me the filter fibers that are missing from the missing hemispherical shaped area shown in photo.  (There were also some seed shells in there)

 

Perhaps a rodent got in there and made camp?  Didn't find any droppings though so still a mystery.  

 

Took many more hours to put back together.  If I went out and did it again right now, I could probably do in an hour.  If I do it next 2 years from now, probably 3...  

 

I'm certain honda dealers give this job to the 'new guy' as punishment!

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That scooped-out section of the airfilter says "Rodent Damage" to me. Ive seen that countless times when at work. Most prevalent in garages where the owners kept their bird or dogfood. Replace it and be done.

  Squirrels are the worst, they'll wreck your world. They chew through wiring, filters, fuel lines, etc.

 

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You ever notice that goldwing people always say, "I've had 3 of them".  What they are saying is that they sold them when they were due for a new filter!  

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Maybe, but have any of those people told you how many miles they put on them?

 Ive been on HSTA and MSTA rides where, at the after-ride banquet the subject of miles would come up.  200-350K miles was not  an uncommon figure.

One gal on a Suzuki Bandit1200 had 240K on hers, original engine and all. Looking at the bikes on the hotel's parking lot, what I would consider unreal odometer readings was the norm. And GoldWings usually had the highest reading, followed by ST1300s,  and various BMWs. You wanna play, be prepared to pay.

And the GoldWing riders that were on their 3rd(or more) 'Wing told me that to them, nothing else measures up.

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3 hours ago, ZRX4ME said:

Maybe, but have any of those people told you how many miles they put on them?

 Ive been on HSTA and MSTA rides where, at the after-ride banquet the subject of miles would come up.  200-350K miles was not  an uncommon figure.

One gal on a Suzuki Bandit1200 had 240K on hers, original engine and all.

I think your thinking of Denise, from Oklahoma.  She still has that FZ1.  Still original, still piling up miles.

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7 hours ago, ZRX4ME said:

Maybe, but have any of those people told you how many miles they put on them?

 Ive been on HSTA and MSTA rides where, at the after-ride banquet the subject of miles would come up.  200-350K miles was not  an uncommon figure.

One gal on a Suzuki Bandit1200 had 240K on hers, original engine and all. Looking at the bikes on the hotel's parking lot, what I would consider unreal odometer readings was the norm. And GoldWings usually had the highest reading, followed by ST1300s,  and various BMWs. You wanna play, be prepared to pay.

And the GoldWing riders that were on their 3rd(or more) 'Wing told me that to them, nothing else measures up.

True.  I guess when you ride that much you change enough air filters that you get good at it or you don't mind dropping $150 for something that 'should' only be $25...   Maybe all the bikes like that have filter similarly buried.  I tend to agree that the GW is excellent ; if something better it can't be by much.  

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On 7/12/2018 at 2:06 PM, SprintST said:

I think your thinking of Denise, from Oklahoma.  She still has that FZ1.  Still original, still piling up miles.

 Yep, that'd be her, I couldnt remember her name except it started with a "B", or that she had an FZ-1 instead of a Bandit1200.

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On 7/12/2018 at 5:37 PM, GSXR55 said:

True.  I guess when you ride that much you change enough air filters that you get good at it or you don't mind dropping $150 for something that 'should' only be $25...   Maybe all the bikes like that have filter similarly buried.  I tend to agree that the GW is excellent ; if something better it can't be by much.  

 

 Mike, MR Cycle shows your air filter at $35.06. You doing the work yourself costs you time only. You know you'll get the time and effort changing that filter down to a half hour or less. And it isnt like youre riding a Honda '73 CB175. Sounds like you got it made!

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